"Nobody’s life is entirely free of pain and sorrow. Isn�t it a question of learning to live with them rather than trying to avoid them?

    The greater part of human pain is unnecessary. It is self-created as long as the unobserved mind runs your life.

    The pain that you create now is always some form of nonacceptance, some form of unconscious resistance to what is. On the level of thought, the resistance is some form of judgment. On the emotional level, it is some form of negativity. The intensity of the pain depends on the degree of resistance to the present moment, and this in turn depends on how strongly you are identified with your mind." by Echart Tolle.


     Dont u think the unacceptance and the resistance to our present is a way of defending our selves or trying to find our suitable frame in which we are created or our personalities are made to be in,,,,, coz i think we dont all end in the frame we are born to be in unless we had that pain and that resistance in which it turns to be the catalyst that push u to do wat ur made to do or capable to do, and eventually defending ourselves by gaining the space in life we believe its ours .

no  comment ana    but thx alot Alarm





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now first , that deap bro ,
second , that Echart Tolle does make sence ..and the way u did put the question , darn so deep , mitfaji2 sara7a .
now ur question does contain the right answear i say , but still it doesnt tell about the motive that pushes one to resist some sircumstances and decide to be contained a frame he decides that it suits him better , since that way we endure self_inflicted pain ...

now im wondering if that has to do with froids theory on psyche levels ,  Ego, super_ego, and ID . may find the motive in the super ego perhaps ... any oppinions

Hi,
Very nice subject and very deep ...
In my opinion, human beings, we 're automatically influenced by so many sentiments and feelings which are contrast also : pain, sorrow vs pleasure and joy.
                                  
Unfortunately human beings are more influenced by sorrow and pain , although joy and pleasure gives us life , gives us strenght but once we face a problem we forget all the strentgh points and we almost become as dead beings.
Life is full of ups and downs (joy and sorrow) we can never avoid them but we can live with them and deal with them  and we have to ; those sentiments exist in the world so we can not omit them or avoid them , that's why we have to act like humans being not dead beings and accept what is it and we always have to make effort and do what we can to make things better and joyful arround us. So, it all depends on our attitude and our thoughts , we have to change it into the positive side whatever  the problem is , so that life won't be full of sorrow, we have to find ways to feel more and more appreciattion in what we have, why do we always look at the negative side ?! this is wrong as we have bad things in life we always something in returns , we always have positive things and good things in our life so let's look at the bright side even even in death , we always have to be optimistic ,let us take the bad things , sorrows and pain  as a lesson to make our life better and better cause life is really beautiful but also it's up to us either we wanna make it easy or we want to make it complicated , it''s up to us to chose either we put ourself in prison where nobody survived that imprisonment or we put ourself in a vast public garden where we are free to do whatever we like.
so in that way we see pain and sorrow r no big deal when we use our mind and our strenght to fight all the obstacles we face everyday . God gave us a brain to use it moreover we have the will and the power so why don't we use them .... so the important thing is using our mind to come up with solutions to our problems , be creative to make our life happier and easier and keep our SPIRIT HIGH wich will comfort us and give us strentgh to survive and keep us fighting...

sorry for making mistakes...
Thank you alarm  

thx Icon its very true and soo nice ,,,
  .... this sorrow and pain that we feel is a react by our personalities to an existing fact and in my opinion this pain is very necessary cos its wat push us to seek the better, coz if there was no pain wen we r injured we wouldnt seek to cure the infection and thats wat i ment wen i said that pain is necessary and the way in which we try to eleminate this pain is the way that push uss for the better ,,,, so the whole human kind was evolved and and advanced by this feeling and need to be better, and leaving this need is painful,
   pain is a part of our feelings that is necessary to make us go on ,,, even wen we do something in order to feel pleased,its pain that is stimulating us coz not succeeding and not getting the feeling  of pleasing  is painfulll ,,,,

  thxx again Icon

sah Alarm mazbout kalemak w aslan sorrows and pain mawjoudin mn 2abel ma nekhla2 , metel ma 2elet enno already exist badna na3rif n3ich w net2aklam 3ala kel chi w net2abbal l awake3 wel wade3 w mnechtighil la7atta nkhaffef 3anna mich nzida 3layna, w akid aslan mich bass iza w2e3na bi michkle aw iza fchelna bi chi m3ayyan nekheda as a push kamen metel ma inta 2elet enno l pain and sorrows bta3tina push w defe3 la7attandal nadil bel 7ayet this is life badna n3icha 3al 7ilwe wel mourra w aslan ana b7ess l 7ayet hiye falsafe b7ad zeta w madrase b7ad zeta bet3allemna ktir bta3tina ktir w bel mou2abel btekhod menna kamen ....

Merci elak alarm 3anjad nice subject ..

thx icon w sa7 ma3ik w thx for ur replies

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